If Christ was not defined until 325 C.E., then who are the first Christian Romans worshiping?

Both the description of Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah (Greek "Christ") and the use of the term "Christians" to describe his followers are much earlier than that.





What happened in 325 CE was that a Roman Emperor, having decided (purportedly on the basis of a mystical vision) to align himself with Christianity, summoned an ecumenical council (that is, one of all the Christian leadership) in the belief that his administrative talents would be helpful in sorting out a major controversy over doctrine.





It didn't work out that way. Partly because a lengthy series of Emperors wavered between the two major factions, nothing was resolved for over half a century. The so-called "Nicene Creed" got its name from the faction that scored a victory at that first council, but didn't take its final form until a later one and contains at least one direct contradiction of the creed adopted in 325 at Nicaea.





Christ was certainly worshipped as God and as the Son of God earlier. The problem was that there were different opinions as to exactly what that meant. The fight arose because the subordinationists (who regarded Jesus as some sort of lesser God) included a priest name Arius whose poetry became (a) too explicit about the subordinationist view, and (b) too publicly popular to ignore.


The notion that the Emperor (Constantine) was, for the first time in Christian history, available to pick a side and enforce its views, raised the stakes and eventually led to a considerable calcification of Christian theology over the exact status of Jesus.





In the meantime, Trinitarian theology had undergone extensive development, partly because the whole problem is not explainable in simple terms. We had God roaming around teaching people to pray to someone else he called God, or actually "Daddy" (a better translation than "Father" for the informal word he used).

If Christ was not defined until 325 C.E., then who are the first Christian Romans worshiping?
The same being the Mormons worship today, God the Father. And they had a correct understanding of who Christ was in relation to both God and humans, just as the Mormons do today.





Mormons do not use the Council of Nicea as the basis for their theology. The use direct revelation from God.
Reply:Jesus Christ. Making an official definition doesn't mean the concept didn't exist before that. The definition was a move by the Church to make a statement, in the face of heretical doctrine that was going around. That concept had always been there, but not written down in a clear form. %26lt;*)))%26gt;%26lt;
Reply:Historically, Jesus lived from approximately 4BC to 28AD (give or take 3 or 4 years). The church arose immediately after his death and resurrection. The New Testament was written over the next 60 years or so. So the first Christians were obviously worshipping Jesus. The 325AD event you refer to wasn't the beginning of the whole concept of Christ; it was a formal declaration of the fundamentals of the Christian faith, meant to weed out many of the doctrinal errors that were creeping into the church.
Reply:"Defined?"


LOL


circa 32 C.E.:


Matthew 16


15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?


16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.





The Anointed One is defined as Jesus.


Messiah is referred to as far back as Daniel 9, about 550 B.C.E.
Reply:Who were the first Christian Jews worshipping? Peter was a Jew just like Christ. There are so many stories out to discredit the Lord.


The deceiver is deceiving greatly. Be not deceived. Know the Word of God, the Holy Bible.
Reply:Interesting. The Council of Nicaea...now you're going to force me to read that whole thing.





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Reply:It was just God then, and he had a temper.





After he had Jesus, he mellowed out.